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An Alternate
Plan for Iraq:
Interview with Col. Douglas MacGregor, P.h.D.
By: Ryan Mauro
Douglas MacGregor is the best-selling author of
“Breaking
the Phalanx” and is an independent defense and foreign policy
consultant with
Glenside Analysts, Inc. He served in the Gulf War, served in the
Supreme
Headquarters Allied Powers Europe during the 1999 Kosovo War, and
served as an
advisor to the Department of Defense during the run-up to Operation
Iraqi
Freedom. He spent 28 years in the military.
RM: Did you support the invasion of Iraq?
DM: As a
serving professional soldier, I was not asked whether I
supported anything. I was asked what it would take to quickly remove
the regime
from power. I responded to the Secretary of Defense with a concept plan
involving 50,000 men that was predicated on several important
assumptions:
RM: What are some of the mistakes made that has led to the current problems we face?
DM: Answer:
Occupation, occupation, occupation. Christian Europeans in
US or UK uniform have no business occupying a Muslim Arab country under
any
circumstances. The criticality of ensuring that Arabs were always
governed and
administered by other Muslim Arabs was ignored with terrible
consequences. The
more American conventional combat troops you put into Iraq, the sooner
you get
a rebellion against our presence.
RM: Paul
Bremer and some
other experts say the criticism of their firing of the Iraqi Army is
unwarranted, because the Army dissolved as we invaded. The troops shed
their
uniforms and went home. What is your response to this?
DM:
Bullshit. The majority of the force did what we asked them to do. They
did not
fight. We actually called general officers commanding forces and told
them to
stay in their offices and keep their troops at home and they would have
a role
in the post-war Iraq. When 3rd ID arrived in Baghdad and took the city
for the
next four weeks, officers commanding Iraqi troops reported daily to US
battalion commanders asking for instructions and volunteering to go
into the
city to restore order. McKiernan actually met with a group of Iraqi
generals
who provided the names of officers in the grade of colonel and below
who could
be quickly recalled to restore the Iraqi Army to full strength and
health. We
rejected these overtures. The US generals lacked any moral courage and
opted to
do nothing until Bremer arrived. Bremer is not telling the truth.
RM: How big
of a role
does Syria and Iran play in contributing to the violence and how do we
counter
it?
DM:
All the states surrounding Iraq have a stake in what happens inside
Iraq, but
none of the surrounding states has a stake in the success of the US
occupation.
Thus, all are involved with Iranian influence being the greatest.
RM: What is
your
assessment of how Moqtada al-Sadr has been handled?
DM:
Stupidly. We have no interest in refereeing the internal disputes. We
have no
interest in converting Shiites into enemies the way we have Sunnis.
RM: How
would you have
responded to Moqtada al-Sadr’s sectarian violence and attacks on U.S.
troops
(or even Iraqi government forces) if this occurred on your watch?
DM:
First, occupation was a mistake. Second, having occupied it, we needed
to avoid
confrontation with the numerous militias and movements of which
Moqtada's was
the largest. Once his forces attacked us, we had to respond and we did
eventually get it right with the armored force we sent in. However, we
absolutely should never have mentioned this man by name and turned him
along
with a host of others into rock stars. We tend to personalize too much.
Mark
Kimmit on behalf of Sanchez and Abizaid made dozens of dumb
remarks that
actually enhanced this guy's stature.
RM: What do
you think of
the theory that some Iraqi WMD may have gone to Syria?
DM:
I have seen no credible evidence for this claim.
RM: If you
were put in
charge today, what would you do to bring about a democratic, relatively
secure
Iraq?
DM:
Get out immediately. There will be nothing resembling Anglo-Saxon
democracy
outside of Central and Northern Europe and North America anyway. Japan
is
hardly democratic by our standards. Latin America certainly is not.
Africa is a
disaster. China is a very successful fascist state. We need to get out
of the
business of exporting democracy at gunpoint and develop a decent
respect for
the cultures and governments of other nations. However, if we leave
Iraq, the
parties inside the country and the region will have an incentive to
work out
new arrangements, something that will not happen while we are there. I
also do
not believe in the regional war theory if we leave.
RM: Would
you support an
effort to back the democratic opposition forces in Iran to cause
internal
regime change?
DM:
We need to proceed carefully here. The urbanized population hates the
religious
regime. The rural population that supported it whole-heartedly in
1979 is
backing away. Frustration inside the country with the government's
economic
failures is high. But if we strike Iran, we will unite it. In contrast
to the
artificial states of the Arab World, Iran is a viable state with a
credible
history. There is a strong national consciousness, something missing
from most
Arab states. The point is we need to avoid adopting solutions that pit
the
United States against the people of Iran.
RM: Are you
in favor of
a total and immediate withdrawal? What would be the consequences of
this?
DM:
Yes. We need to announce our imminent withdrawal and begin a deliberate
move
south of the Euphrates River. From the beginning we should have made it
known
what our conditions for withdrawal were. Now, we must simply leave.
This move
will take several months. At the same time, we need to make it clear
that we
will not back any of the factions. We should consider leaving a small
residual
force in Kurdistan to forestall the possibility of Turkish
intervention. As for the die-hard supporters of this pointless and
destructive occupation and their warnings of catastrophe, I do not
subscribe to
the "sky is falling" theory. I think the Iranians will continue to
restrain their friends in Iraq. I think that the King of Jordan and the
King of
Saudi Arabia will do whatever they can to protect and sustain the Sunni
population. I think that they Syrian regime desperately wants to
off-load its
refugees back to Iraq.
However,
if a regional war pitting Sunni against Shiite were to occur, the real
question
is why should we be in it? How does it help us to participate? And,
finally,
once we are out, we will have real maneuver room, on all sides. There
is no
reason why we can not do business with everyone, but clearly the Sunni
states
of the Arabian Peninsula will become more, not less dependent on us
when the
Shiite dominated state of Iraq emerges on the map.